PowerWheels 2014 Drivetrain Ideas

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Brushless DC Motor

RC

Advantages

  • Definitely the best weight/performance/efficiency ratio

Disadvantages

  • Not as straightforward electrically
  • Overkill?
  • More expensive than hacky solutions ($200ish) (However people in town may have parts for us?)
  • Less known about how to do this
  • Tend to be fast RPMs so big amount of gearing down

Washing machine

This is the same idea as the RC motor except that we repurpose a washing machine motor instead

Advantages

  • These motors and big and cool looking. We will look totally rad
  • Unique, innovative

Disadvantages

  • What voltage do these run on? Likely we will need to rewind coils?
  • Motor controller might not work out-of-the-box. (What do we do, set for "spin cycle?") We have to make our own or hope for the best for a commercial unit?

Hydrostat

  • Use 12V pump from Harbor Freight ($30ish each) to pump oil to turbine

Power Steering Pump as Turbine

  • Needs to be vane pump. Most but not all PS pumps are vane. Disassembly Video
  • Pumps available from salvage years for $20ish. Some are pick/pull and some are not. Price is the same
  • Vanes in PS pump fly out from centrifugal force.
  • Must use lubricating liquid

Advantages

  • Innovative/unique
  • Could be cool to use transparent pipes plumbed all over the place so people can see the hydraulic action. Put glittery stuff inside the fluid
  • CVT Transmission!

Disadvantages

  • Getting the balance between pressure and displacement of liquid likely to be tricky
  • Extra weight/parts that are totally unnecessary
  • Efficiency? Likely low
  • Only 1 example found of using a PS pump as a turbine (MIT project) and that example was a report and not explained in detail.
  • Not much reference in using vane pumps in general as turbines. Does this mean it's a bad idea?

Tesla Turbine

Advantages

  • Seems cool/innovative

Disadvantages

  • Make our own?

Wheelchair System

  • Use 2 motors from one of the 3 wheelchairs we already have.
  • Use the intended motor controller for the wheelchair
  • Re-gear the motor for more speed and less torque

Advantages

  • Might be the easiest/cheapest way to go, since we already have motors and a motor controller

Disadvantages

  • These motors are built for battery efficiency over hours and not for speed. Are they strong enough? Will they be fast?

Traditional Scooter Motors

  • Use a couple of traditional permanent-magnet scooter motors

Advantages

  • This is the standard solution by other teams. It's tried, tested, and works

Disadvantages

  • Doesn't really take advantage of the parts we happen to have on-hand
  • Not as fun a solution as others?

Bicycle Components

With any of the above solutions, we may need to gear down-up. Bicycle components may be a way to do this

  • Use crank/sprocket/derailleur with bicycle wheel to get the right gearing
  • With wheelchair motors we could attach large gear from crank to motor shaft. There are good ideas on Instructables about how to do this.
  • Scooter motor distributors sell small gears that fit on motor shafts which are compatible with bicycle chains.

Advantages

  • Takes advantage of parts that we probably already have around. A super cheap way to go
  • Easily change gear ratios so we can find the best combination without knowing what we are doing. :-)

Disadvantages

  • Thin tires. Could this cause traction problems?
  • With wheelchair we would be gearing down then gearing up. Not very efficient?
  • Slightly less efficient than a direct-drive solution